Addressing the UFO Problem

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Part of addressing the problem is looking at what other people have done, what people have proposed, and then looking at the current state of the world and thinking of all the angles necessary to push the subject not just in to the limelight, but in to the realm of serious scientific dilemma. This requires:
  1. Demonstrating there is a legitimate phenomenon. Proof as it were.
    1. Some people will only be convinced by seeing it themselves.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16]
    2. A small few are willing to accept the premise that UFOs are real based on the relationship to the individual telling the story. For example, close friends, friends in respectable / authoritative careers, and charismatic story tellers. NOTE: This is dramatically different from people who want to believe that latch on to any tall-tale. [17][18][19]
    3. Others will only be convinced by scientific data (radar /w visuals, cinetheodilites, magnetometers, etc).

      What's interesting is I've ran up against people who don't trust the people interpreting this data. I have a hard time arguing against this. I guess I could always say, "Hey how about I send you the raw data and you send it to your scientist of choice? Then again that would require I have that data. Hrm, perhaps I should start collecting more of the nitty-gritty details too.
      1. Thinking about the possibility of alien occupants led me to question, "what sort of instrumentation would be necessary to convince me a witness's testimony seeing an alien is incontrovertible?" I don't trust photographic evidence, it's too easy to fake, though I might be convinced by the combination of a photograph and 30-60 second heat signature sample. Ideally the person would have a syringe on hand and jab the sucker to get a blood sample :), but then who's to say the sample would be dramatically different from homo sapiens? If there was a case exhibiting radar, photographic, and a biological heat signature I would be sufficiently impressed.
    4. Then others will require appeal to CURRENT authority. Effectively systemic recognition not just whistle-blower's who have in the past worked in government, avionics, etc. [20][21][22]
    5. However the one bottom-line approach that would convince everyone in one fell swoop is some sort of physical evidence (though look at Dr. Roger Leir he claims to have physical evidence, and it's even been double-blind tested by two prolific labs and where's that got him? The same could somewhat be said for the Starchild Project.)

There's a chicken before the egg problem though. To do all the things that need to be done to conduct good research, like digitizing old records, getting more qualified scientists in their respective areas of study, there needs to be funds and general acceptance that there's something worth studying. Reflecting on that I really do believe the best way to tackle all of these issues is to work on the distributed application for collecting data. Putting that online so all of it's immediately available would appeal to the scientific community, the participation of the general populous would build a community of people who are functionally doing something rather than simply building another forum like ATS where most people simply conspire and chat rather than contribute real research.

Though another argument might be, "Lets ignore the establishment and do the research by ourselves." That's hard without funding.

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Reasons for Government Secrecy of UFOs

To try to get to the heart of this matter, it's important to have an understanding of why information is restricted in the first place. It's also worth considering that what's often seen as official `secrecy` may well be just a series of blunders due to ranking staff refusing to take the subject seriously. I posted an article on ATS enumerating the explanations I had heard in the past and encouraged people to contribute their own ideas. This was the result:

IDNameConceptDescription
1 Stephen Bassett theory Snow-ball theory In the late '40s the US government didn't know what was happening when people first started seeing UFOs (Lack of Knowledge theory). The people at the top probably wanted the whole thing to go away since they were in the middle of the cold war (Disbelief theory), kept it under wraps while they were coming to grips with the situation, things got carried away (Culture of Secrecy theory) and the secrecy was never lifted (CYA theory).[23]
2 Nablator theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Panic the public theory / Lack of knowledge theory Reporting failure and lack of knowledge is not easy (tangential connection to CYA theory) and is always avoided:

-Failure to understand their origin, motivation, physics.

For instance this memo sent August 1, 1952 sent by the Acting Chief of the CIA's Weapon & Equipment Div. to the Deputy Asst. Dir. of Scientific Intelligence, 'It is recommended that CIA surveillance of subject matter, in coordination with proper authorities of primary operational concern at ATIC, be continued. It is strongly urged, however, that no indication of CIA interestor concern reach the press or public, in view of their probable alarmist tendencies to accept such interest as "confirmatory" of the soundness of "unpublished facts" in the hands of the U.S. Government'[24]

3 State secrecy theory / Culture of Secrecy theory The 'Culture of Secrecy' theory. The US is, in general, overtly secretive. Sometimes to ridiculous and silly extents.[citation needed]
4 Hynek theory Psycho-social theory / Disbelief theory / "It can't be therefore it isn't."(1) The inability of ranking individuals in government to buy the premise that UFOs might be of extraterrestrial origin, rejecting the idea on principle rather than merit, creating a culture of dismissal that's with us even today.[25]
5 Fife Symington theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Panic the public theory / diffuse It's not necessarily to lie to the public, but to diffuse the situation to lessen hysteria; or in Fife Symington's own words, as broadcast on CNN, "I think as a public figure you have to be very careful about what you say, because people can have pretty emotional reactions. And, I said, my goal wasn't to try to stir the pot."[26]
6 Callahan[citation needed] / CIA[citation needed] / Orson Wells[citation needed] theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Panic the public theory / preemptive It would panic the public. Very similar to 5, the difference being this is preemptive. Gov. Symington held a press conference for the purpose of diffusing a situation that was getting out of control. The idea behind this approach is to prevent things from getting out of control before they even start.
7 Dan Sherman theory CYA theory / Collusion theory The idea that the government has been in communication with EBEs and for some end allowed aliens to do things that if disclosed would cause an uproar, possibly inciting the people to try and overthrow the government.[citation needed]
8 Walter Smith theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory The government doesn't want to tip it's hand because UFOs have implications for psychological warfare.[27] IE/ A scenario where we don't know who's manufacturing UFOs, but we also know the Russian's are equally in the dark. So information is planted through intelligence channels suggesting the US aerospace industry is manufacturing UFO designs.
9 Greg Bishop theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Counter Intelligence theory Back during the Cold War there was the belief amongst US intelligence officers that spies working for Soviet Russia were manipulating naive UFO-investigators to collect information about top-secret US government projects. The theory at the time was Russian spies were spreading rumors that the US was hiding information about aliens. From that US citizens susceptible to such beliefs would take the bait and investigate; thereby resulting in otherwise patriotic Americans unwittingly spying for another government.[28][29]


This is particularly interesting, because it has two implications:

  1. Bait theory - That intelligence officers were trying to bait UFO enthusiasts to find out who was manipulating them.
  2. Public disinformation - This also subtly suggests that since certain projects were "hidden behind UFOs" that military counter-intelligence was trying to minimize public investigation in to what UFOs actually represented (a cover if you believe Duke Gildenberg) because there were repercussions for the real projects.
10 George Marshall / FDR memo rationale State secrecy theory / Technological advantage theory Allegedly during the Battle of Los Angeles a downed UFO was captured. FDR wrote a memo to George Marshall that reads, "This information is vital to the nation's superiority and must remain within the confines of state secrets."[30] This is a compelling argument, such technology would give the US a massive edge over foreign countries both militarily and in industry.
11 Duke Gildenberg Theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Hide it behind the UFO "Every flight we flew generated UFO reports. In fact for awhile we were even using it as a backup tracking system. We would call up a town and ask, 'Did anyone see a UFO this afternoon? Yeah, one to the ... Okay, what direction, to the south? Okay keep an eye on it.' We allowed them to remain UFO reports, with the hope being once they got over the Soviet Union they'd still be registered as UFOs instead of as our reconnaissance balloons."[31]
12 McDonald theory?[citation needed] Psycho-social theory / Ridicule theory Acknowledging the possibility that UFOs might exist, has the potential to destroy careers, ruin personal relationships, and can even result in people doubting the persons sanity. There's a strong chance insiders don't come forward out of fear that people won't believe them.
13 Robertson Panel theory Mandate theory The Robertson Panel concluded that the government should debunk UFOs. "To some extent this was due to the 'crackdown' on 'unidentifieds' as recommended by the Robertson Panel (p. 11) in 1953" [32][33]

It's important to note that "mandate" does not presuppose negative intentions (ie/ conspiracy). Considering the strong desire to use psychological warfare there's an argument to be made that the "crack-down" was to minimize domestic interest for what the government recognized as sanctioned foreign counter-intelligence.

In Ann Druffel's words, "The Panel's stated motive for recommending this action was to prevent the possibility that a potential enemy of the United States might create a false UFO flap which could clog the communication channels of the military and the government."[34] ( Tie-ins with state secrecy theory and potentially with psycho-social conditioning )

14 Steven M. Greer theory Greed theory The government is withholding this information, because it would force those in the know to reveal we have the capability to tap free energy -- thereby destroying the worlds power structure. In other words, "the greed theory."[35] (Possible tangential connections to State secrecy theory & Psycho-social theory)
15 CYA theory CYA theory Reluctance to admit cover-up and lies during the last 60 years.
16 Humiliation theory CYA theory / Humiliation theory Reporting failure is not easy and is always avoided, especially a humiliating failure to the duty of the world's most advanced military force:

-Failure to protect airspace against incursions, failure to track, intercept, shoot down UFOs, and/or loss of military aircraft.[36]

17 SaviorComplex theory State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Panic the public theory / preemptive / Biological threat theory "Consider that smallpox killed 90-95% of the native population in the Americas; in Australia, it killed 50%. While yes there would be some chaos after it was announced we were being visited, it would be far, far worse if the government then said the extraterrestrials were carrying a disease that could wipe out most of the human race (tangential connection to CYA theory)."
18 Jeff Lindell theory Researcher fallibility theory Some sloppy or sensational research has put forward incorrect, false-positives supporting the "official secrecy" or "cover-up" theory.

For example, several ufologists have insinuated foo-fighters were covered-up by the USAF when in fact WPAFB, Boling AFB, Maxwell AFB & the NARA made all their records available (4500 pages). These ufologists simply didn't know where or how to look for them.

This is tangential however because we can verify that there have been and still are misleading remarks coming from government on the issue of the UFO phenomenon.

19 Eugene Yeates theory State secrecy theory / Methods and sources theory Release of documents for public scrutiny, for a variety of reasons, “would seriously damage the ability of the United States to gather this vital intelligence information.”

Furthermore, how the NSA works with a network of foreign sources, organizations, and other governments to secure intelligence data would be adversely affected.

The majority of these records, explained NSA official Eugene F. Yeates in the 1980 affidavit, were communications intelligence reports that "are the product of intercept operations directed against foreign government controlled communications systems within their territorial boundaries."[37][38]

20 Heike theory Coercion theory / Black-mail theory The idea "that the aliens [or another entity / organization] could be hanging some sort of threat over the PTB".[39]

This is the positive version of "CYA theory / Collusion theory." Black-mail implies coercion. Collusion implies self-directed cooperation. Thus representing a fundamentally different motivation for cooperating with a 3rd party.

21 Psycho-social theory / Not-my-problem theory The notion that people in government don't want to deal with the issue, because it would be too much of a headache.[40]
21 Gawdzilla theory Psycho-social theory / Non-starter theory "All my association with Blue Book showed clearly that the project rarely exhibited any scientific interest in the UFO problem. They certainly did not address themselves to what should have been considered the central problem of the UFO phenomenon: is there an as yet unknown physical or psycho- logical or even paranormal process that gives rise to those UFO reports that survive severe screening and still remain truly puzzling?

Such lack of interest belies any charge of "cover-up"; they just didn't care."[41]

22 King theory Psycho-social theory / Disbelief theory / Wish-it-away theory "A large section of society probably wishes that the problem would go away. The writer feels that, at least subconsciously, this wishful thinking has pervaded what is claimed to be an objective investigation. Currently the debate is concentrated on what constitutes valid proof and evidence."[42]
23 Psycho-social theory / Status-quo theory Not wanting to disturb the balance of power or disturb peoples beliefs because the implications are too massive & the repercussions unknowable. "Naturally, no status quo presses for its own downfall, no matter who is at the helm."[43] (Possible tangential connection to greed theory)
24 Psycho-social theory A response less based on reason / premeditation and more due to emotional or social conditioning.
25 State-secrecy theory Any motivation that stems from wanting to protect territorial interests. Whether that be to adequately defend in the event of war or provide advantage over foreign powers.
26 State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Panic the public theory / preemptive / Religious theory Exposing that ET's are engaging humanity would destroy all orthodox religious belief systems. (Connections with Status Quo theory & Disbelief theory and possibly Greed theory).[44]
27 State secrecy theory / Psychological warfare theory / Counter-intelligence theory / Distraction theory "In 1994 the UN unearthed 669 mass graves in Guatamala alone! We also trained El Salvadoran air crews at Albrook AFB to man six AC-47 Spooky gunships which unleashed hell in the countryside of El Salvador. One of the most surreal images I can remember having in my entire life was flying over the Honduran-Nicaraguan border and seeing nearly a hunderd columns of smoke from what appeared to be burning villages for as far as the eye could see off into the horizon.

My point is that these people will do anything to keep the American people distracted and blinded to the sheer brutality of it's own government. When I left Central America in 1985, I went home on leave. God, I talked to my friends and college buddies and they all heard nothing about what was going on down there. They had heard nothing in the media about us fighting in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala and Colombia. They did remember something about the invasion of Grenada, but very little. To say the least, I was very distraught. One evening I was sitting in a tavern in my home town and a good buddy of mine pulled up a bar stool and bought me a beer. He said, "Hey, your're in the Air Force right?" I told him that I just returned from Central America and he leaned over and said, "Man, I really need to talk to you!" I thought to myself, finally, someone wants to know what we are doing down there... He looked at me with a very solemn look in his eyes then asked me, "What does the Air Force know about UFOs?" You know, here we were in rural America blithering away about some strange lights over Uncle Joe's corn field... while in Guatemala and El Salvador they know that when these strange lights appear a fire storm of death falls from the sky. "Death From Above" is the motto of the 1st Special Ops wing."[45] (Connections with CYA theory and very likely Greed theory)


Developing a Method

The problem with transient phenomena is we can't repeat the same incident over and over like we can with say exoplanetary research. However thinking about this gives us an interesting insight. Any observation that's picked up independently by numerous modes of detection is considered a tangible objective repeated observation. This is a type of six sigma variance. If we were to contrast this against the "Wow Signal!" or Dr. Ragbir Bhathal's Gliese 581g OSETI detection, all that's required are 3 or 4 independent observations for academia to sit-up and take notice (scrape to 1:58),

This changes whatever's being observed to a "candidate" for being an objective something. Assuming we have a hypothesis, the object becomes a candidate for that hypothetical something. The question of what the object represents remains an open and unanswered line of inquiry.

In exoplanetary research the hypothesis of the objective candidate involves waiting for a full circuit of the object. If this occurs there's good cause to think it represents a planet (i.e. the subject of the hypothesis). If not that doesn't invalidate that there was something provably observed. So, irregardless if it fits the hypothesis or not, there are still positive attributes that can be used to describe this something. The first and most obvious being that the object more than likely wasn't a planet. Also details from spectrographic tracks might give a hint of the objects composition.

The difference with UFOs is that rather than have a positive hypothesis (like an exo-planet), what's sought after is determining if the candidate represents a genuine unknown (or TRUFO) that given perfect information wouldn't turn out to be a misidentification of an already known phenomena (i.e. a negative hypothesis)

Fig. 2 - Human knowledge
Fig. 2 - Human knowledge

If the object doesn't belong to the category of "known phenomena" then it represents a question mark worth further investigation. Put another way True UFOs (TRUFOs) represent problems for all scientists to attack. Very much the same way "unsolvable math problems" or "dark energy" represent goal-posts for mathematicians and physicists. The study of the unknown allows us to categorize things that are outside current understanding so people in specific fields of research can attempt to bring their specialty to bear against "true unknowns."

Unfortunately the phrase "unidentified flying object" has become bastardized to mean "alien spacecraft." This sort of a priori bias presupposes all unknowns seen in the sky must represent a singular phenomena when in all likelihood it represents many unique and different anomalies.

Through careful categorization and an exhaustive ruling out process this mechanism for finding TRUFOs would reduce the amount of time between anecdotal observation and objective confirmation using rigorous scientific processes (e.g. TLEs sighted in late 1880s that were only officially recognized in 1989).

This is what a UFO should represent. A crowd-sourcing technology that informs people of what they're seeing, and to keep scientists up-to-date on bizarre observations. This creates a nice feedback loop educating the public (reducing superstition) and provides helpful tips to research facilities looking for new lines of scientific inquiry.

To be extremely anal H(x) → y represents a function that tests a hypothesis against a given x_n candidate by giving a true or false y_n result. The falsification of an x_n candidate does not mean the given x_n is false, rather it simply means that x_n is not a part of the domain of H(x) → true. Then since all things are something, for any given six-sigma objectively provable x_n ∃ a hypothesis H_n(x_n) → y_n, where y_n is true. So all we have to do is create an application that tests x_n against all probable Σ(H_i())'s. This then will allow us to empirically determine if the x_n is a true unknown.

Transcluded from Firestorm

  1. Thought-provoking: "If [McDonald] had lived out a normal life span the UFO field today would be very different from the chaos into which it has been tossed. At the very least, he might have been able to help put together a nationwide monitoring network, to bring us closer to a solution of the puzzle of these unknown objects."[46]

    Personal Note: I wonder other than MUFONs network are there any active scanners in place to detect UFOs? I seem to remember there were some Swedes who set up an observation station. (Also see 'Addressing the UFO Problem')
    1. There are academic proposals to setup such monitoring stations, but have they materialized?
    2. I've proposed creating an observational application for the iPhone / mobile phones to address the "see it with your own eyes to believe it" problem.
    3. While searching for the Swedish group responsible for the sky watch project I stumbled on this:

      "In 1954 an automatic working station for UFO monitoring was installed at Shirley's Bay near Ottawa in Canada. After this station detected the first suspicious event, all data gained by this station was classified as secret, although the cameras of the monitoring station could not make any pictures because of fog."[47]
    4. An ATS'er proposed a distributed sky-watch project using webcams.[48]
    5. After spending a good portion of the day searching I finally found the Swedish observation study (it's actually Norway / Sweden) and it's called Project Hessdalen.
    6. Then of course there's the US GEODSS (Ground based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance System) project.

      "GEODSS is a real, live, functional UFO detection system that's been running for decades. If anything big enough to be interesting was anywhere near the planet for more than a few hours, it would be noticed. Even the target didn't reflect radar or light, it could be detected because it would occasionally occult a star."[49]
    7. Reading Stanton T. Friedman's notes from the '68 symposium, it didn't occur to me that he might have been one of the scientists invited to attend - correction he didn't attend there were only 5 panelists rather he submitted a paper after the fact[50], he wrote:

      "Why haven't the worldwide Smithsonian Network of Satellite Tracking cameras picked up "Unknowns"?

      The former head of the film evaluation group concerned with the Smithsonian sky watch said [10] that the purpose of the search was to get data on satellite orbits. If a light source on the film could be shown not to be a satellite then no further measurements were made. 10% to 15% of the plates showed anomalous light sources which were not a satellite but were not otherwise identified."[51]

Transcluded from UFO Symposium 1968: McDonald Case Studies

Personal Note: There is footage from NASA. Not to mention there's ex-FAA Chief of Accidents and Investigation John Callahan's diatribe on the 1986 JAL-1628 case and how the CIA confiscated most of the hard-data. Astronaut Gordon Cooper had a similar story. Bottom line though the NASA footage, even though bizarre, doesn't definitively suggest UFOs and doesn't even come close to suggesting ETH. Although it does definitively indicate UAPs! Still classifying it as a UAP means we don't get the kind of urgency that would come with proof that there's intelligence guiding these objects. The point in saying all this is that if we're looking for anything it's this kind of data: satellite telemetry / photography or more to the point NASA footage showing off intelligent "structural details such as 'ports' and 'legs'"[52] that we're led to believe are there by witnesses who have seen UFOs.

Transcluded from UFOs: What to Do?

"Hynek considers two parameters of reports, credibility and strangeness, and suggests that the investigator really needs only to be concerned with reports having high strangeness and high credibility. The physical scientist is in a position to evaluate strangeness, the social scientist should be able to provide some measure of credibility."[53]

Joke / Rambo Approach

In jest I suggested one way to solve the UFO problem was to use the model illustrated by the TV show Supernatural.

Provided enough funding and a certain crazy-willingness to travel around to various UFO hot spots in a tow truck with a boat trailer hitch (this is important). It might be possible to shoot down a UFO using a handheld heat-seeking rocket launcher. With a little luck, after landing two or three strikes, the alien-bastards ship would crash to the ground and, keep your fingers crossed, give up the ghost.

Provided the thing doesn't blow up, using a welding torch, crowbar, and shotgun (preferably double-barreled), the occupants would be forcibly pulled from the craft and loaded in to the passenger seat. If the UFO is small enough (say 20-30') this Mercs 2 Mattias-esque badass would use the tow pulley to load it on to the boat trailer hitched to the back of the truck. Sadly if the craft is in the process of exploding or if it's a 500' mothership it'll have to be left behind to no doubt be scavenged by the MIB. Don't forget to take a few UFO scraps for keepsakes!

Once loaded up call the hospital nearest to the TV newscasting facility to notify them of the near-dead occupants piled in the truck cabin and then conference in the broadcasting station to tell them to get a camera crew in front of the building, stat, to conduct the worlds first live alien interview! Next on the todo list is to break out the ultra high-end video camera (or at least something with good minimum illumination). Record the flaming ARV; pose for a few shots with the out-of-towners; once you're done (don't take too long) pull out the SD card; duplicate it on your portable computer; stick the duplicated SD cards / UFO scraps in pre-written / stamped envelopes to all the major news networks and drop 'um in the nearest mailbox. With that wrapped up the only thing left to do is drive. No doubt law-enforcement types won't take kindly to flaming alien debris flying off the tailgate. So it would behoove this ufologist, fine upstanding citizen that he is, to come prepared with a bit of extra weaponry to blow out tires and fend off angry police officers.

Last but not least once securely in the broadcasting station our intrepid hero will have to conduct a bit of due diligence to make sure the reporters are living up to their end of the bargain and not simply taping the recording. If necessary take hostages and make sure to bring a portable TV system to confirm that they aren't lying about their "live" broadcast.

In the end, between the evil military and the rightly angry aliens, our protagonist will have to decide to either use the remaining ammo to make a break for it or allow himself to be apprehended "for great justice."

Laundry list of things to consider

  • All old records need to be digitized
  • Creating a better UFO reporting mechanism.

Notes

  1. ↑ RedCairo (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg5#pid5928545. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  2. ↑ Carlthulum (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg9#pid5935883. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  3. ↑ Dissemination (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg9#pid5936955. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  4. ↑ DREAMING MAN (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg6#pid5930026. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  5. ↑ Gowdy, Joey (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg4#pid5925521. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  6. ↑ simonecharisse (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg4#pid5926128. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  7. ↑ TheWriter (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg5#pid5927650. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  8. ↑ jasperaldo (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg5#pid5927683. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  9. ↑ ReelView (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg5#pid5927917. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  10. ↑ arizonascott (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg6#pid5930147. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  11. ↑ N3krostatic (2009-03-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg7#pid5930829. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  12. ↑ ufoorbhunter (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg9#pid5935799. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  13. ↑ acidtastic (2009-02-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg1#pid5921913. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  14. ↑ IntelRetard (2009-02-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg1#pid5922100. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  15. ↑ Anonymous ATS (2009-02-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg2#pid5922585. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  16. ↑ Section31 (2011-08-22). "ATS - RE: The UFO phenomenon is now undeniable.". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread743182/pg5#pid12129837. Retrieved on 2011-08-22. 
  17. ↑ Tektonic9 (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg9#pid5935243. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  18. ↑ martin_heth (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg8#pid5932987. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  19. ↑ martin_heth (2009-02-03). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg2#pid5922590. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  20. ↑ Tokis Phoenix (2009-03-04). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread441873/pg8#pid5934127. Retrieved on 2009-03-04. 
  21. ↑ Heike (2009-03-22). "ATS - RE: Why do you believe in alien UFOS?". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread444130/pg7#pid6030672. Retrieved on 2009-03-23. 
  22. ↑ FoxfilesMulder (2011-03-13). "ATS - RE: Kid Catches Alien on Film Once again". http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread673381/pg12#pid10779569. Retrieved on 2013-03-13. "Your failure to respond 3 or 4 times to my request that you acknowledge knobs previous videos of the same nature have gone straight into the trash bin by ATS staff" 
  23. ↑ Fife Symington, Gary Tuchman, Stephen Bassett. (11-13-2007) (in English) (flv). UFO Disclosure National Press Club. [News]. CNN. Event occurs at 05:32. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vymLxCgGKM4#t=m5s32. Retrieved on 7-31-2009. 
  24. ↑ Fawcett 1990: pp. 123
  25. ↑ Hynek 97, pp. 4: "The other school of thought took the much easier way out and summarily dismissed the entire subject as misperceptions, a fad, postwar nerves, or the effects of a "silly season," particularly when the reports came from civilians. The top brass in Washington chose to adopt the latter view. It was much simpler. And, after all, their Scientific Advisory Board composed of reputable and highly placed scientists had said such things just couldn't be -- they had to be mirages or the result of plain good old-fashioned imagination. It was against all known science that a craft could behave in the manner attributed to UFOs: amazing accelerations from a standing start, right-angled turns, rapid, noiseless disappearances after seemingly and openly defying gravity by hovering effortlessly above the ground. Science had said that it was impossible and the Air Force theorem which was to cause so much trouble later on was born: "It can't be, therefore it isn't."
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